NCLR Alleghany Trail May 17th 2008

[SFDiscoII]

Hello all,

Currently signed up for the trip are the following people

Leigh Askew - Trip Leader (Camping)
Michael McClung - First Aid Leader (Staying in Hotel)
Mark Pangilinan (Non Camper)
David Badillo (Camping)
Steven MD (Going Home)
Eric (Possible, going home)

Trip details can be found at http://nclrclub.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=126&Itemid=111

Yesterday I performed a solo Recce of the trail.
The trail is generally in good condition and we can make easy progress. I hit a few small pockets of snow some passable others required a fun recovery sessions.
Unfortunately towards the end of the Alleghany Trail right before it reconnects with the North Bloomfield trail we have a large section (1/2 of mile) of deep snow that does not look like it will be clear by the 17th. As the day was getting late and I was on my own I decided against trying to travel the 1/2 mile via multiple 100' winch pulls. I doubled back and did not have time to recce the the section of North Bloomfield or Henessy pass I intended to run back to highway 89 and return to civilization.

Question to the group is what type of Vehicles do you drive, are you lifted and how many are winch equipped.
Also is everyone planning on Camping on the trail or will some be leaving for Hotels or just spending the Saturday with the group.

I see a couple of options
1. Run the trail and battle through the snow at the end of the trail then take the remainder of the North Bloomfield and Henessy pass.
2. Run the trail to the snow and then turn around and head back then take the remainder of the North Bloomfield and Henessy pass.
3. Delay the trip another month to see if conditions improve.

I am up for all of these possibilities, If the group size remains small then all can be possible easily. We can also make the decision on the trail once we get there. Just want everyone to know what they are getting into.

I am not sure if i will have the time to recce the parts of the trail I did not complete so we may have a surprise or two there.

[sasquatch]

'Morning Leigh,

I'm up for plowing some snow. LR3 / moderate lift / winch equipped. I'll camp where ever we choose. GF + 2 kids in tow. Let me know if you want to sneak out during the week to further recce(sp). I am NOT in favor over postponing the trip. I need this getaway!!!!

[SFDiscoII]

David,

I am swamped at work, no chance I can do a mid week recce. Possibly next weekend on Sunday 11th, I will know later in the week. I would want to run the parts I did not run.

I will keep you posted.

[astateofmike]

I am RRC 2" lift, Front skid, sliders and diff guard.

NO WINCH at this time.

We are staying at the La Quinta Old Sac on Friday night and Sat night. Sunday is the Brit Car show, so dirty truck is good for me! However, I don't want something like Shaver with wife and baby in tow.

If we do decide to run it, which I am in favor of, everyone will need to have sleeping bags, blankets and if possible a portable heater along with spare water and such. If we decide to run the snow, there may be a lot of sitting/idleing and I know I will be carrying at least 5 gal extra fuel now (which should give me 50 miles). And snow shovels if you have them.

I say continue the run. If we get there and the snow is still deep, we can make a run at it. If it is too difficult, we can turn around and head back. As long as we don't committ to many trucks, we should be fine to abort...

Option 2 sounds like there is a bypass? Is this so?

[astateofmike]

Also, before the 1/2 mile snow, howmany miles are we already on the trail for?

[stevenmd]

is this a camping trip or a one day trip?

[SFDiscoII]

I would agree that bringing camping supplies is a good idea for this or any trip you never know what we are going to come across or what will happen on the trial to delay our journey. This trail is pretty easy going regarding gas. I ran the whole trail front and back on 1/4 tank. Never hurts to have extra gas though.

As far as camping, I plan to camp on Saturday night.

I will try to run the parts of the trail I could not last weekend this Sunday to better decided on our best options, in the past the section with snow was the only main problem. The remainder is most likely clear of snow however I want to make sure before we to commit to avoid a full on snow trip.

Mike, I will look at the maps again either later tonight or later in the week to figure out the best way to get you out for the return to Sac for your hotel.

No bypass, the Alleghany trail is a loop which starts and ends on the North Bloomfield road trail. If we want we can complete the trail front and back and then run the small section of the North Bloomfield trail to get to the Camp site. Once we get the group to the campsite I planned on running anyone back to civilization who was not camping before getting back to camp to enjoy a beverage or three.

Next day I had planned on running North Bloomfield out to join Henesey pass to 89.

[SFDiscoII]

is this a camping trip or a one day trip?

Steven,

You can do either, camping on Saturday or return to home.

Hope you can make it.

Leigh

[stevenmd]

Steven,

You can do either, camping on Saturday or return to home.

Hope you can make it.

Leigh

Leigh - since I will have all the kids in tow, how long is it to the trailhead from the Sacramento area? (I figure I am about an hour from Sacramento). IIRC, I think I first met you when we ran this trail a few years ago when Mike M. lead it.:cool:
Steven

[sasquatch]

C'mon Steven!!! Quit being a Blue Bird and just camp! Sheeezzzeee!! I'll bring my entire Korn collection and turn the bass up. Remind you of Mendo!!! Cupcake...:D

[SFDiscoII]

Steven,

I think your right about meeting you on that trip.

I just MapQuested Ripon (i think that is where you live) to the Grass Valley gas station we are meeting at, it works out at 2 hours.

Not sure if my kids are coming, My youngest came this weekend and had fun counting the critters we came upon.

[SFDiscoII]

I nearly blew it, Sunday is Mothers day:eek:. I guess that means i will be going back up to finish the Recce on Saturday instead.

I will let you know what I find when I get back.

[stevenmd]

I nearly blew it, Sunday is Mothers day:eek:. I guess that means i will be going back up to finish the Recce on Saturday instead.

I will let you know what I find when I get back.

LOL...

anyone else going just for the day or is everyone camping? Looking for people to convoy with to the meeting site. I will be taking I5 (or 99 if need be).

[sasquatch]

LOL...

anyone else going just for the day or is everyone camping? Looking for people to convoy with to the meeting site. I will be taking I5 (or 99 if need be).

I'll hook up with you if you want Saturday morning. I5 or 99. Pretty early though?? 7:00ish +/-

[astateofmike]

We are camping at the LaQuinta near old town Sac.....on Friday and Sat nights....off of i-5...so let me know.

[stevenmd]

Perhaps we can meet up with Mike at the "La Quinta Campgrounds"...:eek:

[stevenmd]

Also... how long (timewise) is the trail? Trying to figure out ETA to get back home.

[astateofmike]

Perhaps we can meet up with Mike at the "La Quinta Campgrounds"...:eek:

Chill out there big Steve....the wife, daughter and dog will be there too....no yeti costumes for you this trip!

Actually, since we are going to the all Brit meet on Sunday too, it works out well for us! The whole weekend rooms, both nights, like $115. Sure as heck will make that Sat roll out and return that much easier!

[astateofmike]

Leigh Askew - Disco 2
Michael McClung - RRC
Gary Young LR3 or D90
Mark Pangilinan LR3
David Badillo LR3....

CRUD, oldest vehicle again......

[stevenmd]

Leigh Askew - Disco 2
Michael McClung - RRC
Steven - RRC
Gary Young LR3 or D90
Mark Pangilinan LR3
David Badillo LR3....

CRUD, oldest vehicle again......

updated... but you are still the oldest vehicle...

[SFDiscoII]

Also... how long (timewise) is the trail? Trying to figure out ETA to get back home.

I should know more after tommorow. Not sure with a group.

I ran the trail in both directions, from the gas station meeting point to getting back to main roads with some winching fun in approx 8 Hours although I did not pay that much attention.
I move pretty quick on my own.

I will try and post a better update when I see the trail on the other side of the big snow section. I will then decide which trail run option is better for the group. I think we have some campers, some hotel/going home people.

[SFDiscoII]

Hey guy's can I get head count on who is coming camping Saturday night and who is heading home/hotel etc.

Just want to make sure who I need to get back to civilization and how I cna share a campfire with.

[sasquatch]

Camper. And Happy. Go figure...:)

[stevenmd]

Non-camper.

[astateofmike]

La Quinta, spanish for camp site.....with a hot shower....

[PCRover]

No Camping for me. Either a motel in the area, or if we make it through I will just continue on to stay in Quincy.

[SFDiscoII]

Okay people,

I just returned from a second solo Recce (well I did have my two boys along as co-pilots).

I ran the N Bloomfield trail to the other side of the snow I hit on the Alleghany trail last week. So I know we can easily do everything up to the snow on both sides. It seems like the amount of snow is not going to stop a small determined group of Land Rovers:cool:.

I did try to run the remainder of N Bloomfield to Henessy pass and hit even more snow on that trail. All is clear until you pass Graniteville and try crossing the Poorman Creek, getting on and off the bridge was a challenge. Once I cleared that I had several areas of snow that I needed to winch through and after a while decided not to push my luck and continue on solo.

I am thinking that best bet for next Saturday is to run Alleghany in reverse, hit the snowed in area early in the day when everyone is fresh. This will also have the advantage of bring us back close to the beginning of the trail at the South Yuba Bridge crossing we start from. This will allow a safe return for the non campers.

The original camp grounds I selected are beyond the snowed in section of N Bloomfield, so it looks like our best options for camping will be either the South Yuba Campground or a nicer one looked like the Chute Hill camp.

I will look into reservations, it looks like it's just me and David up for camping. Anyone change their mind let me know ASAP.

[astateofmike]

Sweet, good reece there Leigh...

So should we bring full size shovels and picks? Or does someone have a big bottle of propane and some torches we can melt snow with?

For everyone coming, throw blankets in the car, change of clothes!

I don't have a winch anymore Leigh, but I am packing my 100' sythetic line, so we could add to a winch line and have a straight 200' pull if needed.

How about running lower air pressure? Did you need to? How far is/where is air to refill if needed?

[SFDiscoII]

Shovels would be good. Picks not sure.

I just ran with street pressure, no major obstacles other than snow.

You have a long drive on pavement to the nearest air, so either bring a compressor, CO2 or similar or just keep the air in your tires.

Never hurts to have some warm stuff and dry clothes just in case, but the section we are running should not be too bad.

[astateofmike]

Found it in Backcountry Advenures. No need for map, I know where I am now.

Looks like this will be fun, photogenic and a great day!

[stevenmd]

Thanks for the recce and report Leigh. Like Mike, I too am looking forward to this trip. I will meet up with Mike at his "camp" (perhaps sasquatch too?) and rover-pool in with him (if it's ok with Mike).

[astateofmike]

Not a problem. I will do a little research and figure out how much time it will take to get to the starting location from the campsite and let you know when we need to meet....

Of course, this also means that if you will be stuck following my slow truck up the hills to Auburn, so remember that too! Maybe David can give me a push?

I will keep the hi lift handy for you! (kidding)

So, La Quinta is at : 200 Jibboom St, Sacramento, CA 95811 (La Quinta Inn-Downtown)

Meeting point: 451 E Main St, Grass Valley, CA 95945 9AM-915AM

Remarkably, 59.0 mi – about 1 hour 10 mins (With my truck, like 2 hours.....well not that bad, but lets say 1.5 hours) with cat herding...

so, we need to leave Sac by 730, so meeting at LAQ is like 7AM...not bad for me, since the baby gets up at 515am, but you guys, espcially Dave and tribe, have to leave early!

Sasq..., FYI, with AAA the rooms here are like $55 a night......we are coming up Fri night, just to knock an hour and some off the AM commute....something to think about for you....

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=11907377007832744097,38.596711,-121.505531&saddr=200+Jibboom+St,+Sacramento,+CA+95811+(La+Qui nta+Inn-Downtown)&daddr=451+E+Main+St,+Grass+Valley,+CA+95945&mra=pe&mrcr=0&sll=38.580379,-121.425018&sspn=0.225981,0.464172&ie=UTF8&ll=39.186231,-121.080322&spn=0.112031,0.232086&z=12

[sasquatch]

hmmmmmmm.

[stevenmd]

i forgot about AAA... let me talk to Suzi since she has to work in Roseville Saturday morning... we will need two adjoining rooms since the boys will be with us...

[astateofmike]

There is also a La Quinta fat the 80/99 meeting, off of, dang it I forgot the name of that street...where lrsafari lives, but I chose the downtown one since we are going to Woodland the next day, and it is near a park and Old Sac.....

Not advocating one place over any other, La Quinta takes dogs and I get rewards, but at least friday night in Sac means easy rollout...

[stevenmd]

perhaps i will meet you somewhere along 80 since taking the detour to la quinta adds about 30 minutes to the trip up... already going to be a long day and all for the baby...

[SFDiscoII]

:DLooks like we will have fine weather.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/general/tenday/95959?locid=95959

[astateofmike]

Oh boy, 3 days till I am driving and I need to pack aughh...

[stevenmd]

Cameron (cambo) might be coming as my guest.

[astateofmike]

That would be cool.....of course all you lifted LWB will make my truck look like a "little brother", but hey RRC representing is good!

[SFDiscoII]

Cameron (cambo) might be coming as my guest.

Sounds good.

[PCRover]

Things are looking bad for my attendance this weekend. The LR3 may be sold so I can't take that and the D90 just got back from Cerrone's and the transmission swap. I need this weekend to finish up the interior work onthe D90 so I can make the Oregon trip in a couple of weeks.

[SFDiscoII]

Sorry to hear that. Good luck getting the Defender ready for Oregon, and I will see you on that trail instead.

[SFDiscoII]

Gary, If things change and you can make it let me know so we can make sure we wait for you at the meeting point.

[astateofmike]

The LR3 may be sold so I can't take that....

We will miss ya, but at least there is good news for you...

[PCRover]

I will pop a cold one for you guys when I am crawling around in the D90. Just got another reason to stick around...Sold the removed 5speed R380 out of the D90 to a guy who wants to buy it this weekend!

[sasquatch]

Sorry to hear Gary. I enjoy watching you drive! Hope you get the D3 sold for the right $$$$$$. Get the D90 rolling and tear it up at Oregon. :cool:

[stevenmd]

Sorry to hear Gary. I enjoy watching you drive! Hope you get the D3 sold for the right $$$$$$. Get the D90 rolling and tear it up at Oregon. :cool:

call me sometime today and we can arrange a meet up. i plan on leaving ripon around 6:30am or 6:45am. i'd like to meet up with mike on 80 somewhere. keep in mind i drive the speed limit...;) so you might just want to meet up with me where i will be meeting mike (yet to be determined).

mike - i will call you later today

steven
(209) 622-5757

[sasquatch]

:D

I'm leaving Newark at 6:00am sharp. Should put me on I-5 in 50mins. +/- or 99 @ 1hr - 20mins. Plenty of time to get to GV by 9:00. I'll call you today. BTW - you've been wanting to slip me your cell number for months. You little manx!!



mine

510.258.7107
Gemini
Turn on's:
Pina Coladas
Getting caught in the rain...
Turn off's:
mean people
World hunger




:p

[SFDiscoII]

See you all in the morning at

Main St Chevron, 451 E Main St, Grass Valley, CA 95945

9 AM meet 9:30 AM depart.

If you have to cancel after Noon today please call me on my cell 408-592-1240

Not sure I will have access to the forum/email after that time.

(Steven, got your PM regarding Cambo and his Head Gasket)

[norcal relics]

Catching up late here guys, trying to make this run. In the trip sheet it doesn't say anything about the one dayers, are you running the trail then turning around and going back? I still don't have low beams on Precious so I need to be back in Woodland by dark. The series 1 has no reg, but should be running by today.

[SFDiscoII]

Eric,

We will be running a loop that will get all of us back to the main roads. Only two campers and we will head back to the campsite after the day trippers leave. We should get back to the roads with time for you to drive home, unless we have problems.

Hope you can make it. Let me know once you are sure your coming so I we can keep an eye out.

[astateofmike]

Ok, updated here as we are leaving for Sac later as work commitments are causing us headaches.....

I am leaving 200 Jibboom St, Sacramento, CA 95811 (La Quinta) at 730AM if all goes as planned. This will give us 2 hours to make it to Grass Valley. SHould not be an issue at 60 miles. Eric, left you a vm, but you are welcome to meet me at the hotel and follow up....

see you all tommorrow...Steven, if this works out well, we will cross 80/99 at like 745 ish, so if you are behind, I'll only be doing the limit, or less as we go uphill

[astateofmike]

SHOVELS>>>>>>>if you have one, full size and room to carry, bring it along for the snow spots....

[norcal relics]

Eric,

We will be running a loop that will get all of us back to the main roads. Only two campers and we will head back to the campsite after the day trippers leave. We should get back to the roads with time for you to drive home, unless we have problems.

Hope you can make it. Let me know once you are sure your coming so I we can keep an eye out.

Looks like my wife will handle the shopping so I'm at 80% sure I'm coming, will know for sure tonight. I'm bringing my dog, is that a problem?

[astateofmike]

I'm bringing mine......make sure to bring water for the pup......case it's hot.

[sasquatch]

Cool Eric!! Bring the pooch!

[stevenmd]

:D

I'm leaving Newark at 6:00am sharp. Should put me on I-5 in 50mins. +/- or 99 @ 1hr - 20mins. Plenty of time to get to GV by 9:00. I'll call you today. BTW - you've been wanting to slip me your cell number for months. You little manx!!



mine

510.258.7107
Gemini
Turn on's:
Pina Coladas
Getting caught in the rain...
Turn off's:
mean people
World hunger




:p

you lost me at mean people;)


OK, meeting up with Dave... or David if he prefers...:p at 8 Mile road off of I5 in Stockton at 0730 hrs. This should bring us to meet up with Mike on I80 sometime around 0815-0830 hrs.

Eric - I am only doing the day portion so you are not alone on that one. If need be, you can tailgate me home if it's after dark - doubt it will be dark but you never know.

Mike - Thanks for the reminder about the shovel!

[norcal relics]

I can't believe my luck. Just took me 20 minutes to get Precious started in the DMV parking lot, vapor lock. Hopefully no problems on the trail though! I'll be meeting you around 7:30 at your hotel Mike.

[stevenmd]

Forgot the mention that I will be bringing a porta-privy that takes 5 seconds to set up and 10 seconds to take down, plus a lug-a-loo with some wag bags. Everyone is welcome to it if need be but you have to carry your own used wag bags...:eek:

[norcal relics]

Precious doesn't seem to want to leave the shop, won't start. Dangit.

[stevenmd]

Precious doesn't seem to want to leave the shop, won't start. Dangit.

If Mike has room for you in his truck, he can take you to where we all meet up and then you can ride with me. My oldest decided to opt out this trip so the front seat is vacant.

[norcal relics]

Wind is out of my sails, coughing my head off, truck doesn't run right, have a good trip.

[stevenmd]

Special thanks to Leigh for leading this trip.

I met up with Dave and his gang at 8 Mile Road in Stockton around 7:25am. We finally caught up with Mike and his 3.5 at the rendezvous point in Grass Valley around 9:10am.:eek: I would keep that engine if I were you Mike!:)

It was a dry and dusty trip but overall it was pretty fun. Jesse, Jacob, and Brooklyn had a blast. I wouldn't mind trying to do this trip a few weeks earlier in the year without the baby and camping. Might be kind of fun to dig through a few hundred feet - or mile or two - of snow. I bet the kids would find that fun.:cool:

Also might be fun to do this trip after the first rain but Mike did bring up the point of slick mud on some of these trails!:eek:

One note of interest: a few miles up a shelf road we ran into a guided group of 24 vehicles. The etiquette of the trail is to always back up uphill, not downhill. However, in the spirit of sportsmanship, we ended up making way for the larger group. Which probably was the best thing to do since it looked like most in the larger group were noobs, with the exception of a few built rigs. But it was pretty interesting backing down the shelf road. Thank God I started driving the tractor for my dad when I was 10!:D

Anyways, thanks again to Leigh for leading the trip. Thanks to everyone for good company.:cool:

[SFDiscoII]

Steven, Thanks for the kind words. Great to see you again, definitely try to camp next time. I am up for running the same trip next year earlier or after some rain to spice it up a little.

Trip was fun, amazing what a week of hot weather can do for the snow on the trail. It went from a winch -a-thon to a walk in the park.

Regarding the shelf road, I appreciate your support for my decision of having our small experienced group back down vs having the very large group of inexperienced travelers back up. I know we were a little behind schedule due my scenic detour early:o

I ran into the large group again near North Bloomfield and passed along Mike's idea to their trip leader of sending a scout ahead on a narrow shelf road to ensure it was clear of traffic before committing a large group. He was very receptive and plans on implementing this on his trips.

I think this would be wise even for a small group like ours. One truck goes through and radios back its clear while holding up traffic at the other end if necessary till the group clears the shelf road.

Till the next trip.

PS I did not bring a camera so I would really appreciate the folks that did, post a few pics.

Leigh

[sasquatch]

A big Thank You goes out to Leigh for all his hard work on the trail and the multiple recce runs!! I silently kept wondering "where's all the snow?". I give him some grief back in camp when I unpacked my snow shovel. Overall it was a nice and pleasant trail run!:D
Back to that large group on the shelf road - after stopping in at the bar in Alleghany to use the facilities, they were closing at 4:40 pm. Huh?? They ran out of beer and mentioned a group of 26 jeeps came by earlier...maybe it was better that WE backed down the road!!
We took our time leaving Sunday and checked out North Bloomfield a little. Cool mining history and neat little hiking trails everywhere. We even managed to get a bit lost on the way out. I promise Leigh, I paid attention to your directions on how to get out!!!! Time to get GPS I suppose...
Thanks for a fun trip!!

[astateofmike]

This will be a busy week for Suzie and I, so pictures as soon as possible from the trip.

Few observations: First, 3.5 was a work horse...just slow on the road...in the dirt, pulls fine. Was running "upper end" hot and still it....I am thinking of checking the flow. Maybe I need to boil the radiator.

Second, scenic detours....Always good if the time permits.....I would like to go back just to hike around Short Road and see what all those rocks and trails are about... I don't think I took a picture, so I'll have to go look again...

Third: The backing up. Best call based on our driver pool. I think the most important thing is that all were safe, but when I talked to the guy at the bottom, he seemed matter of fact that we back down, and had little control over his group, as one driver almost hit Gabrielle and then, after Suzie grabbed her, almost backed into my truck. I at one point, as I tried to get Steven and I a clear path out, told the "leader" that we backed down because it was becoming clearly evident in the actions of his drivers that "control and accountability" must not be words they were taught as adults....

Fourth..Radios...I know my CB is not tuned the best, but we need to make sure that we have LONG range ability for the radios, or when we start to back down/seperate a bit, we know the plan.....back down, then decide what to do. Back down, then go forward etc. At the river, we were unsure of the plan, and did not see the other Rovers in the group....Before we start something next time, lets stop, take a breath and decide what WE plan to do...I thought everyone was backing to the river.... so if we get out of radio range, we all know what is expected next....

Fifth:

THANKS LEIGH! Although we got off track, we never were "lost", just being creative. Could always get out, but forged ahead. Dave, Mark, Steven: always a pleasure to be out on the trails with you all and your families.

Now for the Alleghany Trail photos and STICKERS>>>>

[SFDiscoII]

Mike,

Sorry to hear the other group almost hit your little girl.:mad: It's tough being on the trail will little ones, I am always fearfull of big trucks with blind spots and little kids not fully aware of their surrondings and vunrability. My wife and argue no end in the urban environment about my over cautious attitude towards my kids especially in parking lots. Really glad no harm came to her.

Good point on the radio range and a clearer plan regarding what we were doing. I think I made it clear that we were backing down to points that would allow others to pass by, I managed to get three of the six trucks in that type of position. It sounds like you and Steven backed all the way down to the river and unfortunately we were unable to reach each other via CB radio to let you know to come back up after the last of the other group past you.

I guess we can never rely fully on the radio's no matter CB, HAM tuned or not.
Good news is you and Steven used your common sense once the last truck passed you made your way back to the group to continue.

[astateofmike]

It was one driver, in a red heep that was the issue. I did notice that we as a group have no issues with kids/cars.....we all are very aware and careful. Maybe that because families along on trips are such a normal part of what we do.....That group had nothing more than the "what I want to do" mentalitly for drivers in the middle of the pack. Maybe them closing the bar was part of that issue...

Yes, I thougt we were going down far enough to get off trail. The only spot I could have made room in, safely, was big enough to uturn, so we did and went farther down....could not have gotten 5 trucks in there and I was unsure if you all had cleared the trail or not...

Maybe that should be a protocol. If needing to clear the trail, the first truck can notify the line when they are cleared, then so on until the last truck is the only one moving. Then we only need to back down to make room as needed. I kept backing down as I had no good spot, figured you all wouldn't either, so I was making room.....

On a good note, I am really happy with my backing downhill skills.....!

Overall, I had a great time...the wife was tired by days end, and grumpy, but I would do that again! I told Eric I could run the trail with him when his truck is ready...and I am looking forward to the Blue Lakes recce trip, alone.....

[MrVideo]

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[stevenmd]

Mike - I know you guys are busy this week but post up those pics when you can! I am hoping to make a screen saver out of some of the ones of Brooklyn.

[astateofmike]

You got it Steven....the wife is gone till Wed night, then I will get her on it....I know we got a ton of Brooklyn.....

[GriffSC]

and I am looking forward to the Blue Lakes recce trip, alone.....

when is it? (too lazy to look.)

[astateofmike]

Alone cause no wife, Steven is in charge, but has not set the date yet.