RR8 - Who is going from NCLR?

[PCRover]

Since RR8 is officially on, chime in if you are planning on attending! We need a good turn out this year to represent NCLR. I plan on attending and hope I am not the only one from NCLR there. :eek:

[Gotrovr]

Count me in

I need to remind myself to email Lyle to reserve an RV spot :)

[Gotrovr]

Registration accepted #NCLR0016

Saturday Defense Mine
Sunday Goler Wash

[Desertcrawler]

Hey Will,

Are you willing to trail-boss the "extreme" section of Defense with us? You would need to be first truck in, plus be the primary spotter...I don't want to tackle that on my own. I can take you up there Friday if you want to check out what we would be getting in to...

[PCRover]

Just got my confirmation. When are you heading down there Chuck?

[z31dude]

okay, noob question:

what is/where is/when is RR8?

Edit: Nevermind, found it.

[Gotrovr]

okay, noob question:

what is/where is/when is RR8?

Edit: Nevermind, found it.

If you have any questions whatsoever e-mail me your phone number and I'll call you back hopefully with the answers
president@NCLRclub.org

[Gotrovr]

Hey Will,

Are you willing to trail-boss the "extreme" section of Defense with us? You would need to be first truck in, plus be the primary spotter...I don't want to tackle that on my own. I can take you up there Friday if you want to check out what we would be getting in to...

Yes It would be an honor to trail boss the last section. I walked right through it last last year.

Isn't that where you spent the good part of the day hung up on a small rock :D

Actually it was Hercules P38

[ROVRMAN2]

it sucks 2b me"

Registered for RR8, now I find out there are no rooms available at PSR.
Anyone got room for 3 or 4 adults in a RV?
I can camp, but spouse,brother & his spouse are wussies.

Otherwise, I'll have to get a refund....rats.

Rupert:(

[lutz]

count me in.I finally got some time off to go play.cant wait Saturday Defense Mine
Sunday Goler Wash.

[Gotrovr]

count me in.I finally got some time off to go play.cant wait Saturday Defense Mine
Sunday Goler Wash.

Nice of you to join us :)

[ROVRMAN2]

Leaving for RR8 Thurs. AM 4/3 from Sacto-I80E-267-US50E-Carson City-US395S-Lone Pine.Side trip Alabama Hills Fri.AM. Continue in afternoon to Panamint Springs-RR8.
(route if no late winter or early spring snow storm)

[Rover Grenade]

Leaving for RR8 Thurs. AM 4/3 from Sacto-I80E-267-US50E-Carson City-US395S-Lone Pine.Side trip Alabama Hills Fri.AM. Continue in afternoon to Panamint Springs-RR8.
(route if no late winter or early spring snow storm)

Unless you are trying to take the scenic route 80-267-50-395 is the really long way about it. 80-395 is a straight shot.

[Gotrovr]

Heading down Thursday after work in RV towing Shrek, lay over in Bakersfield?, expect early Friday arrival PSR hoping to recce Defense Mine

Chuck are you game?

[Desertcrawler]

I am up for that as well. Perhaps even push on a bit further (ie Techapachi) so we can recce that layover spot for the Mojave trip.

I lost my GPS waypoints for Defense so the Recce on Friday is becoming more critical... haven't gotten official word from anyone that I am leading it but expect to soon...

-C

[PCRover]

Chuck, Can you confirm the dates of the Mojave trip??? I have it as March, not April after RR8???

[Desertcrawler]

coming soon...

[PCRover]

Ok, Just checking...

[ROVRMAN2]

Unless you are trying to take the scenic route 80-267-50-395 is the really long way about it. 80-395 is a straight shot.

Trying to avoid Reno & Carson City traffic ;)

[Rover Grenade]

Trying to avoid Reno & Carson City traffic ;)

Gotcha. Sometimes the touron lake traffic is ten times worse. Nothing beats cruising 28 through Sand harbor behind a minivan that stops in the middle of the HWY for repeated photo ops.

[ROVRMAN2]

True, but we're not going during high season. Never had a traffic/turista problem during March or April. Snow yes.

[RoverMack]

Yes It would be an honor to trail boss the last section. I walked right through it last last year.

Isn't that where you spent the good part of the day hung up on a small rock :D

Actually it was Hercules P38

That small rock was a challenge for all the LR's that choose to reach the top of the trail - except for Gotrovr, pictures at http://spaces.msn.com/conalmack
I would certainly like another shot at this trail. (I have only ever needed a winch or required a pull on 4 occasions Defense mine, High centered in truckhaven, Mud hole in Utah and in Moab on Steel Bender when i destroyed my rear diff carrier) Of course driver skill / experiance counts for lot - not just the vehicle mods- however that last obstacle on Defense mine does irritate me. I had watched the other LR's struggle and decided to make 2 attempts and then just winch. That was when the agonizingly slow line speed of my MM winch became rather frustrating. The small rock i negotiated no problem - see photos at http://spaces.msn.com/conalmack It was the obstacle just before that "small rock" which presented the problem for the 6000lb P38, with a viscous CD and a rear truTrac LSD. Thats my excuse- but the driver skills, left foot braking, engaging the truTrac's, and loading up the viscous CD are all a learning process from these experiences.
While i try and use common sense and judgement to avoid mechanical carnage (33" tires on standard driveshafts/ cv's and i do carry spare complete axle assemblies) with a long drive back to LA etc.
I have now installed a front GBR truTrac with a stronger 4 pin carrier, still need to replace the front driveshaft - (instead of putting the money into a quality winch!) so yes i would like to run Defense mine on Saturday if that meets the approval of the trail leader? I have not built my truck to take on Isham canyon, but Defense mine is the only trial i have done in DV that i could not negotiate on that particular day without assistance. My RR is close to being built for my intended purpose, as long distance freeway cruser and reasonably capable trail vehicle and i do want to see if i can complete the trail unaided and without mechanical breakage.

[Gotrovr]

I suspect with proper guidance and trail maintenance ;) you'll do fine.

[Desertcrawler]

I am not talking about the last section driving up to the mine.

I am thinking about a much more extreme section, referred to as "Cummings Gap" which I ran during Panamint Valley Days. It is something I have never made it all the way up without requiring a winching. So it will be a challenge.

We will want to make it an optional part of the trip for those who want to avoid it -- I would think lockers, at a minimum, would be required.

[Gotrovr]

I am thinking about a much more extreme section, it will be a challenge.

:eek: :D

[PCRover]

Maybe a side trip to the "ranch" is in order???

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/14/csi.manson.ap/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/14/csi.manson.ap/index.html)

[Desertcrawler]

If we get in early enough to recce Defense, we could then take a quick run up Goler to Manson's cabin on Friday...

I also haven't figured out what I'm doing Sunday...

[lutz]

im going to try to make it up there Friday morning. if u guys need any help with anything just let me know.

[Desertcrawler]

We are gonna do a "recce" of Defense on Friday. If you aren't going on that run, it'll be a good way to get it in anyway...

[ROVRMAN2]

We are gonna do a "recce" of Defense on Friday. If you aren't going on that run, it'll be a good way to get it in anyway...

What time Fri?

And Caravan on 395 anyone on Thurs.?

What's the NCLR head count?

[Desertcrawler]

We are gonna be leaving on Thursday at about 3pm, driving as far as we can get before we get tired (which means overnighting someplace between Bakersfield and RidgeCrest). As we will be towing, our top speed will be somewhat limited to 75 or so, and we will be slower going up hills..

I think Gary and Will are leaving around the same time, and both will also be towing. What worked last time was that we all kept cell phones of each other, and met up on the road someplace. Didn't want to slow anybody down -- especially since you can't use the carpool lanes when you are towing..

Will probably be doing the recce for Defense late Friday morning, after we arrive, set up camp, etc...

[ROVRMAN2]

Wife just clobbered the Disco tonite..down to ZERO vehicles...must rent a temp vehicle for the rest of week.:o
She said someone backed into her and pushed in on the right edge of the TJM bumper into the wheel well. Can't turn the tire without major tire damage.Also bumper got pushed into headlight module and broke the lower trim. AAA just towed it to the body shop. I'll get an estimate tomorrow.:eek:
Don't know whether to be :mad: or :( or both.

So much for Easter...

[Gotrovr]

What a bummer Rupert....

Hang in there, vehicles can be repaired or replaced....

[RON CT110]

Bummer Rup! But hang on! There will be other trips and sounds w/the damage - you can be out of the body shop in no time. That is what insurance is for IMO!

Let me know if you can use a stock 04 D2 rear bumper; I am upgrading my rear (maybe this is an opp for you to upgrade to Rovertym (smile)) with the new Rovertym rear bumper for D2s soon (as soon as Rovertym is finished fabricating it/ready to ship to Tony for the install).

[gmookher]

hi, this sounds like something I'd like to do, when is it? where is it? how do i sign up etc, I'm a noob to the left coast and this forum but new to rovers/wheeling.

I have some time off for memorial day weekend, and saw a post for a rubicon run, for fudders day and got me thinking, what other trips are there I can get in on?

[lilcrawler]

hi, this sounds like something I'd like to do, when is it? where is it? how do i sign up etc, I'm a noob to the left coast and this forum but new to rovers/wheeling.

I have some time off for memorial day weekend, and saw a post for a rubicon run, for fudders day and got me thinking, what other trips are there I can get in on?

RR7 would be a great one to go to, it is hosted by NCLR, SCLR, Las Vegas, and San Diego clubs. Go to the SCLR website www.sclrclub.org and you can get registered. The Oregon Discovery trip would be a good one for you too, based on location...

Look at the trip schedule on this site, most of our trips are getting posted up here. There are other opportunites (such as the Jeepers Jamboree in July on the Rubicon trail) that people do that aren't offical runs. Also, we do an introductory trip the first Saturday of every month at Hollister, the now infamous MORG.

We invite prospective members to come as someones guest for the first time, then ask that you join the club and get your cool T-shirt before coming with us a second time. I think RR7 rules are the same...

[ROVRMAN2]

I gave you the wrong info. After March 1st it's open enrollment, just go to the Land Rover Las Vegas site and register.

http://www.lrclv.com/

[ROVRMAN2]

The adjuster was suppose to look at the vehicle last week. Had to complain to insurance co.they said an adjuster will go out tomorrow afternoon. I've lost a week in getting a new TJM bumper. I'm thinking of putting on my 03 plastic and trimming it for RR7.
What's your opinions? :confused:

[Gotrovr]

have the adjuster look first, then swap bumper if last resort

[PCRover]

Chuck and Will, you still planning on leaving Thursday afternoon?

I was thinking of staying in Bakersfield or maybe Tehachapi again Thursday night.

Anyone else from the Bay Area going?

[ROVRMAN2]

I counted only 5 this yr. TERRIBLE. I was hoping for more.:o

[Gotrovr]

Chuck and Will, you still planning on leaving Thursday afternoon?

I was thinking of staying in Bakersfield or maybe Tehachapi again Thursday night.

Anyone else from the Bay Area going?

Yes on Thursday, trying for Tehachapi, eta 9:30PM

[Desertcrawler]

Last minute change in plans means it is just me and lilCrawler. We are gonna take the Disco w/o a trailer and sleep in tent cots.

I am actually going to try and push all the way through to Panamint, or at least to RidgeCrest. I'd like to set up those cots and wake up to a Death Valley Sunrise....

As I may be the 1st person to arrive, do we want to set up a special NCLR camp area? I do have our banner, and can hang it up someplace -- as I'll be tenting versus RVing it maybe I can hold a few RV spots/tent spots for other NCLR members on Saturday night? I'm not sure of the actual list of attendees:

Will - assume you have RB
Chuck - tenting it
Rupert - hoteling it
Gary - tenting it?

others?

[Gotrovr]

now that's a new prespective "RB"

"Rover Bedroom"

"Recreational Bounder"

"Really Big motorized tent on wheels"

:D

[Desertcrawler]

wasn't there some movie where the "RV" was called "Big Turd"?

Anyway, maybe it'll be me flying by you on the 5 with my trailer-less D2 on Thursday... that is if you hit the road early enough...


-C

[PCRover]

I am in a Motel room, so the NCLR compound will be small.

[Desertcrawler]

weather should be good. Whats wrong with the rooftop?

[lutz]

ill be there friday at sunrise:)
tenting and a camper.

[PCRover]

weather should be good. Whats wrong with the rooftop?

I am lazy....

[PCRover]

Sorry guys, not going to make it to RR8 this year. To many reasons to go into here. Have a great time and make sure you pimp the NCLR!

If anyone wants a motel room, I just canceled my reservation so one should be available.

[Desertcrawler]

no cigars and whisky with Gary around the campfire? Next thing I'll hear Will's brother can't make it this year...

[Gotrovr]

sorry you can't make it this year Gary....

Greg my brother-in-law is riding co-pilot this year

The Road to RR8 begins at 2:00pm today....stay tuned

[Desertcrawler]

We will be right on your tail, trying to make it all the way to Panamint...